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by Randy Waage
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In 1994 "Stop the Insanity" rocketed spiky haired, workout guru Susan Powter to fame and forever changed the fitness industry.   Whether you agree or disagree with her the one thing that can never be said of Susan Powter is that she's boring or doesn't speak her mind.  We recently talked with Susan about her career, a new book called "The Politics of Stupid", her recent role in a lesbian feminist musical, and the new woman in her life.

You had a weight problem growing up?

I was what they call a "big girl", so insulting, I had ample bosom and when young women who are 11 years old have ample bosom you either become one of those little girls who slouch down and hide or you use said ample bosom.   Well, I never hid.   That's not in my disposition.

Why exactly did you shave your head?

I didn't shave my head.   I cut my hair short because I like my face and I like short hair.   I just thought it was a nice haircut.   But what turned out to be one of my biggest trademarks was one of the biggest obstacles in the beginning.   Nobody wanted to put a woman with hair that short on television.

My hair was short, back in the day, because I liked it that way.   It's interesting the hair has kind of been the thing.   I went on Fox the other day and said I can't complain if people focus on the hair anymore.  I mean, really, pink and white dreads?

How did the infomercial come about?

I did the ABC's "Home" Show for a couple of years.  Then I was approached by the book industry.  From there I was approached by more television - being the cookie cutter industry it is.  Then the infomercial boys.  The Infomercial is simply the thing most people remember because television is the most pervasive media on earth.

It grew from there?

It blew the hell up.  It was huge.  I had 3 New York Times Best Sellers.  Every book that was on the Bestseller list was huge.

You did a talk show in 1994.

I did the Susan Powter show for a year and hated every minute of it.  My manager, and producer were dinosaurs.  I worked very hard to make it authentic and original.  I was literally out produced on my own show.  Nothing they were doing in front of...  or behind the scenes, him throwing tablets of paper at women in meetings, grabbing women's asses every chance he got, not mine, of course cause I would have cut his hand off, had anything to do with me.  The clothes they told me to wear.  I did three shows a day, seven days a week for a year.  Then, I walked away from the show.

Is it hard because they're paying you millions of dollars?

What was hard had nothing to do with walking away from a whole lot of cash.  What's hard is doing authentic on television.  The medium is one of the most pervasive mediums on the planet earth and it's being used, actually the consumer is being used, for complete shit.   It is the mimic medium and, as with every other patriarchal industry.  The TV boys have canalized themselves.  Otherwise known as fucked themselves. 

"Stop the Insanity" became a huge tele-product because the Women of America Norma Rae'd it right to the top.   It had nothing to do with the boys who control what millions of people watch and feed on.   Nothing.  "Stop" was a hit despite ,and to spite - I've got it in me, believe me, the creative wizards, who wouldn't know creativity if it hit them in the head, I was up against for over 12 years of my career.  My first infomercial was the last, authentic thing I was allowed to do. 

I think a lot of people were inspired by your book "Stop the Insanity" What do you think caused you to take back control of your life from being a depressed, overweight housewife?

There is no moment of motivation or inspiration.  It ain't how a life changes.  It's a lie.  My motivation was desperation.  They're one and the same.  I had two children to raise and I literally didn't have enough energy to get through the day.  As anybody who is over fat and unfit will tell you is true.

I had to make a choice whether or not I was going to resurrect from the physiological dead and live my life or if I was just going to be a victim.  I knew exhaustion, over fat, unfit was/is victimization and I wasn't going to be their victim.  Like millions of women who are raising the babies, doing four times the work.  All you gotta know is one absolute fact to understand, 65% of the poverty households in America are? Single Mothers people.  Figure it out and stop laying down like a doormat.  Mothers, women who are, another absolute fact, the primary victims of? The diet industry, The AMA, The Pharmaceutical boys, and on it goes.  Literally my motivation was desperation.

Your husband was wrapped up in a family business, and was having an affair on you.

Family business, yeah, you could say that. 

I had a 1 month old and a 1 year old and he?  Well, he had an 18-year-old girlfriend.  It doesn't work, if you know what I mean.I don't give a shit about him.  This was 21 years ago, I'm so far past that imbecile. 

"Stop the Insanity" was your first book?

"Stop the Insanity" was written 10 years ago and it's the first of seven books.  The foundations of wellness have not changed one bit in the years since "Stop" was written but a whole lot has that dramatically affects/infects millions of women's lives.

The "Politics of Stupid" seven books later is the culmination of many years work.  It is exactly what is going on today: globalization, mass production, high protein resurrection.  All these things have moved forward in the last 10 years and have everything to do with women re-claiming their bodies, their brains and their lives.  Which is? The solution to more than you could imagine possible. 

You don't preach low carbs or high protein. 

High protein? You must be kidding! We've already done it in the 70's, but that was before 30 years of grassroots education.  Before bovine growth hormone, before we knew about the horrific conditions of the American mass manufacturing of said high protein foods.  This is kinda important, before we knew that the foods those high protein myth makers are telling millions of people to eat are without a doubt directly connected to the top five killers in America?  Eat, Breath, move, and think is so far from the high protein myth.  It's the truth.

Making changes is a tough thing for people.

What's interesting about your question is that I'm in the business of helping people do it.  I completely disagree with that statement.  It's not difficult.  Getting over the, well advertised, socialized, and glamorized belief that re-claiming your body, your brain, and your life from the corporate boys who've built this lifestyle that isn't working for millions of people.  Now that is difficult.

Getting out of the mindset.

Getting out of the mind set is as simple as asking the question: Who set that mindset? The industries that want you crippled set that mindset.  They want people to believe being well, strong, healthy, and loving the way you look and feel is difficult.  So millions of people would (and do) need the help of? The Experts in Our lives.  It's very simple and is exactly what's "happened" over the last 60 years this lifestyle took to build. 

Do you have any quick tips to break the cycle?

Yeah, literally stop eating the shit.  If it glows in the dark, don't eat it and don't feed it to your kids.  If you go to the store to buy tomato sauce and you don't see the word tomato in it.  Put it down.  Common sense of activating institutive Wisdom Women.

But changing a whole life is far more than a quick tip.  Everybody with a brain in their head needs to order the "Politics of Stupid" now.  Read it and live it.

You do a lot of man bashing.  Do you hate all of us?

Have I acted like I hated you?

No!

It's important the question I just asked you which is the only response to the all too common.  Always asked when women tell the truth or have an opinion.  You are a male.  I have been way over the top respectful so why would you even suggest I'm bashing men?  Here's what I hate: I hate men that war.  I hate men who rape.  I hate men who pollute my air, my water, and my soil.

It tends to be men doing all of these things?

Women aren't running the world.  We wouldn't run it into the ground.  Man is the only animal on earth dumb enough to destroy his own environment.  Your gender has been in charge for the last 5000 years, and...?

Do you think that you've become too radical for some women?

Certainly not Women who believe in complete (and absolute) equality for all "hu-person" beings? Certainly not Women who believe war is wrong and pointless, unless your point is to continue it.   War begets war, duh!  I believe that you and I are absolutely equal.  Is that a radical thought?

No, no it's not.

What I'm presenting is the least radical thing.  The reason it seems radical to some people is because reality has been so skewed, so screwed.

Is it hard becoming famous?

Anybody that tells you they're having difficulty being rich and famous is a fucking idiot.  If you don't like it, be an accountant. It's a whole lot easier than not being able to pay your electric bill, or buy food for your babies.

Do you feel blessed?

Blessed by whom? Their murderous god.

Blessed in general life or maybe Earth Mother?

It doesn't matter if you simply change the name of it...blessed?  No...healed.  Yes, re-connected to my intuitive wisdom, abso-fucking-lutely, like one hell of a mother.

Inner happiness?

I am the happiest person you'll ever meet.

Do you mind me asking about a few of the other infomercial gurus:

Tom Vu?

Oh my God! Wasn't that the financial guy on the boat with 15 bikini-clad women? About Tom Vu you just gotta say, "You're so out of your mind buddy.  Bravo! What was he thinking?"

Suzanne Somers and her Thigh-Master?

Well, my second infomercial did a satire of Susan.  It's brilliant.  You'll have to see it.  I mean really? Squeeze, Squeeze, Squeeze? Did anyone take that seriously?

Tony Robbins?

Not even cosmetic surgery can help with a head that size.  If the rule is "The bigger the head.  The bigger the penis" he'd probably win, but that's not the rule is it?

Linda Evans and her rejuvenator?

You just have to love her for the shoulder pads alone.

What about Dr.  Phil?

Poor Doctor Phil.  If women are not sick at this point of male experts pointing their finger at them telling us how to control our lives yet.  Well, another day for that.  Dr.  Phil giving weight loss advice? I'm totally confused.  He's fat? Ladies, the boy don't look lean, strong and healthy to me? Doc Philly needs to take off his clothes and stand next to me before he gives weight loss advice to millions of women.

Your feelings on Deepak Chopra?

The horror.  Just ridiculous is what I have to say.  Ridiculous.  Another "male" expert in the "field" of spirituality.  I'll give ya spirituality, 10 centimeters dilated, buddy!

You were a topless dancer for a few years?

I've written about it in "Stop the Insanity" I'm writing a book about the Women I met.  It was one of the most fascinating experiences on many levels, but certainly to spotlight the contradiction of patriarchal it's perfect.  The clubs are filled with men.

Years ago some tabloid had the story, "She's a topless dancer" After I had already written about it in "Stop the Insanity" by the way. 

What I said to women all over the world was, "Judge me all you want, but you better judge your fiancés, your boyfriends, and your husbands because they're the ones who are filling the clubs."

They're the ones paying for it.

The young women that I met and still know were trying to feed their babies or trying to get through college.  They were lovely women.  It's going to be a big part of my show.  You know I'm doing a one-woman show called, "The Politics of Stupid" Part of it is dancing topless in the show.

You're pretty proud of your body.

I'm not proud of it or not.  I like to be strong and I like to be healthy.  There's nothing on Earth more beautiful than a woman's body.  We are the most magnificent. 

 

I'm thrilled to be strong, and well.  This is my choice.  This is what I think works.  That's why you know my product is true.  I live it.  My mother didn't have this at 46.  She died at 52.  Do you know what I'm saying? Oppression kills.

You also wrote about Alcoholism.

My last book was, "Sober and staying that way" The truth about the industry of the disease of Alcoholism.

Did you write that for a reason?

Was I an alcoholic? Sure I was.  Everybody knows that.  I wrote a fucking book.  It was a 14-city book tour.  Alcoholism is a Physiological Disease...NOT Psychological.  We are born with the bio-chemistry to be alcoholic.  The AMA boys have known that for over 46 years.  In 1957 it was the AMA who said, "Alcoholism is a physical disease" Well, where's the treatment boys? It's a good question if you are one of the millions of people who suffer, unnecessarily, from a disease that affects/infects millions of people. 

Was there a particular drink that you liked?

I'm Australian I like beer.  Jesus, could that be more stereotypical? I mean back in the day.  Alcoholism is not a choice.  It ain't ever about which drink you like the most…it's about the drink.

You mention in one of your talks that you have an incredible sex drive.

Yes.  I do.

You enjoy sex with men and women half your age.

I'm a lesbian woman.

So you've come out.

Come out of what? No, I was married years ago to a man.  I never will be again.  No…done with that whole thing. 

 

 

How did you meet your current lover, Animal?

Ah, you assume my friend.  You happen to be right but... 

How did I meet Animal Prufrock? We collided in a trailer park in Asheville, North Carolina.  She tours a lot.  I tour a lot.  We literally collided in a Trailer Park.  She has one of THE most brilliant minds I've ever met - besides mine, of course.  She's beautiful, outrageously talented, courageous, wildly sexy.  Bravo!

Did you have a trailer you were driving around the country in?

I was on tour driving around the country in a red Winnebago.  I converted it into a leopard print, red traveling fabulous, Winnebago.  I'm not flying anymore because it's too much of a pain in the ass.  I'm not going to go through their false security systems anymore.  The Winnie is hip. 

You like women better as far as lovers?

Absolutely, without a doubt, not even a thought, no question about it, no going back baby…ever. 

 

You were married for a while.

Horror! Everybody goes through that once or a couple of times. 

I don't remember you talking about being openly lesbian before.

I've publicly talked about lesbianism for so long.  On my radio show I mentioned it three times a week.  I'm a lesbian woman because I'm done with men.  Done.  I found something far better.  There'd be no chance of going back to less.

You've been happy with Animal Prufrock?

I'm not happy with or because of anyone but me.  I'm the only person I'm with.  She's My lover, and a grand lover at that but it's me.  I'm with me.  That makes me happy. 

Aren't you living together? You don't call each other girlfriend?

No, I don't use the word girlfriend.  She is in fact a Woman.  She's a very dear woman/friend. 

Have you never done that?

I use to say husband, but I stopped doing that years ago.  I am an apostle of Sonia Johnson who's written many books.  I recommend that everybody on Earth read, "The Ship that sailed into the living room." It's about relationships. 

How does that work then? Are you true to her? Do you have several lovers?

Do I believe in Monogamy? Really.  One of the tools used to enslave women.  Come on.  I live tribally.  The way we lived for eons before we were taken over. 

Right now you're with a tribe of women?

Yea.  The women in my company we're all working on the same thing...freedom.

You all live in the same house then?

No.  We have homes and there's Winnebagos.  Cob houses, there's a Yurt going up, and there's a tree house being built. 

On a big piece of land in nature?

I'm buying a couple of pieces of land.  That's the way I live.

You haven't always lived this way have you? Is this another adaptation?

I evolved from being married 21 years ago to living free. 

Are there other women in your life besides Animal or are you being monogamous for now.

There's that monogamy question again.  You boys love that monogamy, don't ya.  There are thousands of Women in my life and there will be thousands more.  My work, my life, my being.  It's all about Women. 

I did listen to some of her music and it was catchy.

Animal Prufrock's music is brilliant. 

It was pretty interesting.  She has a good sense of humor.

She's a brilliant monologist.  Bitch and Animal is the band.  I opened for them on their last tour, which was called the, "Pussy Primary" Beyond catchy. 

Did you rap?

I spoke.  Like when you saw me.

She had written something called the "Pussy Manifesto"?

Absolutely.  Bitch and Animal wrote the "Pussy Manifesto" and it's A-mazing, right thru the maze.  I've been listening to Bitch and Animal's music forever.

I'm certain the audiences were very receptive.

They were really, really receptive.  The women who come to Animal's shows are bright, curious women who have great taste in art.  We had an amazing tour.  Bitch has just done her solo album.  Bitch is a grand poet and a glorious woman who I admire and respect tremendously.

Animal Prufrock has just directed, starred in, choreographed, wrote the Musical, Hothead Paisan and is taking Hothead to Broadway.  She's directing my one-woman show called, "The Politics of Stupid" The cast she pulled together alone in Hothead is astounding.  I'm very interested in a woman doing work like that.  She's also happens to be a magnificent, beautiful human being who I love very much.

You have had three sons and you adopted again?

Three and I adopted two boys that went back to their birth mothers when they were ready.  Total in my life I've had 5 boys.

You like the role of mother.

It's the most power-filled role in the world.  Exactly why so much energy goes into to destroying it.  The mother.  She is the goddess.  There's no grander than the mother, and I actually act like a mother.

A interesting mother.

I don't abide by any of the laws of parenting set up again by men.  Dr.  Spock was my mother's child expert.  He had never birthed a child.  How could he talk about raising a baby? I don't listen to any of them.  I go by my intuitive wisdom.  Which as every mother knows is very strong.  Millions of mothers deny their intuitive wisdom.  I never did.

You have another video called, "Trailer Park Yoga"?

My tenth video just came out.  It is truly the best video I've done.  It's just wild.  I filmed it on the road while I was stopping in Trailer Parks.  It's a terrific video.  If it's fat you need to burn, lean muscle mass you want to build, and a body and brain you want to change. 

You can do the Yoga in your Winnebago or Trailer?

The whole thing is filmed in my Winnebago.  You need to get it.  You need to order it and watch it. 

When you finally pass on from this world what do you want to be primarily known for?

I want to be known as A Woman who had the courage to speak the truth.  The only person I want to be known to is me when I'm laying on my death bed.

When I lie down on my deathbed I want to know that I lived this life.  I want to know that I did not compromise.  I want to know that I stood.  I want to know that I spoke.  I want to know that I was a decent, loving human being, and then I will become the wind.

 

 

Is there one book you like the most of all the books you've written?

The one I'm most proud of is "The Politics of Stupid" because it was 10 years, 7 books, 10 videos, 4 infomercials of hard work that led to me being able to self publish and have the book reading I did last night.

Tell us about your interest in photography.

Photography is what I do.  I just did my first movie, "Viral Chaos".  You should see my film.  You need to get it.  Go to www.animalsfarm.net and order "Viral Chaos".  You'd totally dig it.  It is my first movie.  It's about to be entered in every film festival & it's going to win.

That's the DVD about the making of the musical based on the comic book Hothead Paisan?

Yes, it is, and then some.  I was in Hothead along with some of the most talented, glorious Women I've ever met.  I was the ghoul, the atmospheric rage.  Animal premiered it about a month ago at the Michigan's Womyn's festival.  It was a monstrous success.  It's the making of the musical.

You videotaped it?

I have a very interesting photographic voice.  It literally is directly from Animal Prufrock's brain to film.  It's done in sound bites.  Not one thing is scripted.  The story is an actual, as in actual, as in actually what is a reality film.  The story is built on pictures with sound bites. 

When you see this movie what you will see is the story of the making of a musical and the making of an Animal Artist.  The film opens and there is one scroll in the beginning that says, "This movie was shot on a piece of shit $300 handheld camera, five rooms, and four T-shirts in 90 days."  It's unbelievable experimental art.  It's taken off like wildfire.

It's really fast, it's really wild, it's really sexy, and it's really honest.  The way it was shot is very beautiful.  I do the effects as I shoot.  I literally do the effects with the menu on the screen.

What other upcoming projects are you working on?

Did you see "I love the 90's"?

I read about that on IMDB.com.

We're talking about doing some interesting things.

With VH1? The Viacom group?

Viacom owns everything.  I've been doing a lot of Fox.  Fox has called me and I did the Neil Cavuto show which is a Republican, white man show.  They got the largest response in the history of their show and it is his story.

Is there anything else you want people to know?

If increasing energy, activating passion, decreasing fat, increasing the most metabolically active tissue in your body, increasing the quality of your life is what you want.  There ain't nothing complicated about it.  It's so easy to do and the world will only benefit when its citizens are well, strong, and healthy.

Then its citizens will begin to make conscious decisions for the Earth.  In their lives, about the "experts" who guide them, about everything.  I'm the only person you'll ever meet who can, and will connect wellness to world peace and it is all connected. 


To find out more about Susan Powter or to buy her most recent book, "The Politics of Stupid" or her DVD "Trailer Park Yoga" go to her website at: www.susanpowteronline.com.

To order her DVD "Viral Chaos" which is about the making of the musical "Hothead Paisan" or to find out more about the talented artists Animal Prufrock go to www.animalsfarm.net.

Watch for Susan on upcoming episodes of "I love the 90's" on VH1.  

 

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